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Ryan Greenblatt — What Happens Once AI Can Automate AI Research?

Dwarkesh Patel with Ryan Greenblatt

Greenblatt and Patel debate whether automated AI research could compress years of progress into one—and what happens if the researchers are not reliably aligned.

Why it matters

Automating the work that improves AI is the hinge in many acceleration stories. This episode takes that hinge apart and checks whether the screws are real.

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WATCH · 27m

We're Three Quarters of the Way to AGI

Demis Hassabis

Demis Hassabis discusses what today's models still lack: robust reasoning, planning, world models, and scientific discovery.

Why it matters

A frontier claim becomes more useful when its missing capabilities are named: reasoning, planning, world models, and discovery can then be examined rather than merely awaited.

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The History of Revolutionary Ideas: The Bayesian Revolution

David Runciman with David Spiegelhalter

David Spiegelhalter explains how a once-suspect theory of probability became a practical way to revise belief.

Why it matters

AI systems turn uncertainty into outputs. Bayesian thinking offers a longer history of how evidence should change confidence—and why confidence is not the same thing as truth.

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LISTEN · 42m

How DeepSeek Showed That Silicon Valley Is Washed

Ed Zitron

DeepSeek becomes a challenge to assumptions about capital intensity, innovation, and the competitive moat of frontier AI laboratories.

Why it matters

A more efficient model tests whether giant capital commitments are an enduring moat or an expensive habit with unusually good public relations.

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Demis Hassabis — Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero Atop LLMs, AlphaFold

Dwarkesh Patel with Demis Hassabis

Hassabis describes adding search and planning to language models, connecting the AlphaGo lineage to scientific discovery and more capable agents.

Why it matters

It connects the AlphaGo-to-LLM-to-agent story: prediction gains plans, plans gain tools, and a clever system begins to look suspiciously like an institution.

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LISTEN · 1h 4m

No Such Thing As A Noice Computer

No Such Thing As A Fish with Olga Koch

Joni Mitchell, competitive eating, the Dawn supercomputer, and conjugation meet without adult supervision.

Why it matters

Our surrealism generator can combine nouns. It still cannot reproduce the confidence with which this show moves from Joni Mitchell to supercomputing.

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LISTEN · 49m

No Such Thing As A Magnetic Skateboard

No Such Thing As A Fish

An absurdly capable jumping robot arrives alongside clown heads, endangered languages, and the rock-and-roll side of pension planning.

Why it matters

A responsible robotics discussion eventually reaches clown heads and pension planning. Other podcasts merely stop recording too early.

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WATCH · 1h 30m

AlphaGo: The Movie

Google DeepMind

A machine plays a move no human expected. The board remains still; our idea of intelligence does not.

Why it matters

AlphaGo made machine discovery legible: a system trained on human play found a move that expert intuition had not prepared to see.

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